11.30.20 – Daily Dose of Worship. A study on prayer. Part 16. Don’t ask…

DEVOTION: Question. Why make requests of God if He already knows what we need?

Other questions. If He is all-wise doesn’t He already know what is best? And if He is all good, won’t He do it whether we pray or not?

“This is the case against prayer which has, in the last hundred years, intimidated thousands of people. The usual answer is that it applies only to the lowest sort of prayer, the sort that consists in asking for things to happen. The higher sort we are told offers no advice to God; it consists only of “communion” with Him; and those who take this line seem to suggest that the lower kind of prayer really is an absurdity and that only children or savages would use it.” (pg 15)

So, we could stop there but Lewis continues on….

I have never been satisfied with this view. The distinction between the two sorts of prayer is a sound one; and I think on the whole ( I am not quite certain) that the sort that asks for nothing is the higher or more advanced. To be in the state in which you are so at one with the will of God that you wouldn’t want to alter the course of events even if you could is certainly a very high or advanced condition.” (pg 16)

Now, this is a conversation. Have you ever been in this place? This place where you are so at peace where you are that you don’t even consider asking God for anything because you don’t want to disrupt the plan that God has put in effect or is putting into effect in your life? I can honestly say, no. I have never not asked God for something in my prayers. Even small things like health, safety, direction, guidance. These are always in my prayers.

Yet…this thought, this idea that we don’t ask God for anything in our prayers is intriguing. To be that at peace with God’s will in your life. To be that at peace with your circumstances and situations. Oh, that we might be there.

Until then…I continue to ask, I continue to seek. I continue to feel the need to ask and interact with my God in the way that I do.

I’m learning though…..and opening my mind to a new way of thinking for sure….

PRAYER: Pray for God to expand your idea of prayer. To expand your thought process during prayer.

13 Comments

  1. Suzanne on November 30, 2020 at 6:41 am

    Well…that first paragraph woke me up quicker than my coffee….I need to let this devotion sit for a bit. I have a lot of reactions, experiences, and gained knowledge to sort through.

    • Suzanne on November 30, 2020 at 9:53 am

      My 11th grade English teacher asked us to give Shakespeare a chance while she explained and we explored his plays. I did gain a love for his work. Also, I gained the lesson of giving authors a chance before I chuck out the book. I read the preface of How to pray, I can relate to Lewis a little better. This is a collection of topical excerpts from a man walking through prayer growth, spiritual warfare, and a deepening relationship with the living God. As a person who tends to think too much , I can relate to his process
      ok, that said, I am not agreeing with his thoughts. Lewis is dividing prayer into levels, which is dividing people who pray into levels. For about a week I have been having this thought…prayer is a great equalizer. We know from Romans 2:11 that God is no respecter of person

      Isaiah 55:1
      “Come, everyone who thirsts, come to the waters; and he who has no money, come, buy and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
      Romans 10:13
      For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

      Prayer acts as an equalizer because Jesus IS the equalizer and we access him through prayer. All prayer is good if it brings us to Christ. When I, myself, pray, I give praise and thanks, I worship and express my awe, I make requests, I pray in the spirit, I have running conversations and I quote scripture…that’s where I am at. Many years ago my sister-in-law was having a cancerous tumor removed. She said a simple prayer ‘Jesus, don’t let me die’. That’s where she was at. I wouldn’t pick which of us prays better. I think we grow in our prayer life and I think we do it with the encouragement of God not with the harsh judgment of being likened to children and savages. This should be interesting…
      Andrew Wommack has a study on a better way to pray ( a book, CD, and a free YouTube video). I am not done with it yet but he makes some really good points. None of these people ever could or ever should replace the word of God though, they can bring help us find a way to better understand,

      • Dave Pettigrew on November 30, 2020 at 11:06 am

        Yes, agreed. all excellent points. i think i’m just trying to spark a dialogue here as this was a new thought for me as i was reading this part of the book. disagreement is good! it leads to great conversations…

        • Suzanne on November 30, 2020 at 11:54 am

          Yes…I meant to add that even though I question him, I am loving us!

  2. Margaret K on November 30, 2020 at 6:56 am

    So then what do we do with Scriptures like Amos 3:7 NIV which says, “Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing without revealing His plan to His servants the prophets”.
    Or James 4:2 NIV, “You do not have because you do not ask God”.
    And in Genesis 18:18, “Then the Lord said, ‘Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do?’” His gave Abraham a chance to intercede for Sodom – not so much to change God’s mind, but the chance for Him to show mercy.
    In Exodus, God told Moses that He was going to destroy the Israelites because they kept disobeying Him. Moses interceded and reasoned with God, telling Him that if He destroyed His own people the other nations would say the it was because He was unable to take care of them. God relented.
    Psalm 122:6 says, “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.”

    Just saying- there is plenty of Scripture saying or suggesting that we pray and ask.

    • Dave Pettigrew on November 30, 2020 at 11:08 am

      Margaret, yes, so true. I’m just trying to get the conversation going with what Lewis was stating in his book. not saying it’s right, not saying it’s wrong. excellent scripture references here. thanks for sharing!

  3. Nela on November 30, 2020 at 8:21 am

    Matthew 6:9 “Pray, then this way…”
    Luke 11:2 “When you pray, say…”
    These are words spoken just before The Lord’s Prayer. If Jesus gives us direction on prayer…even asking for provision. (our daily bread) then no prayer is to small.
    As Jesus prayed in the garden before his crucifixion…would show us that no prayer is too great.

    • Dave Pettigrew on November 30, 2020 at 11:07 am

      Nela. yes, agreed. those two prayers are so radically different. Such a great example. thanks for sharing!

  4. Barbara S on November 30, 2020 at 9:19 am

    It’s a lot to think about! And certainly a new way to think about prayer! It will be interesting to see where this goes! It may come back to balance….asking for what we really need, not our wants and just having a conversation with God about the everyday things happening in our world. Maybe it’s just sharing a few sentences throughout the day…

  5. Carol B on November 30, 2020 at 9:56 am

    Lots of time I pray for something and then add if it is your will God. Because I always think He might have better answers to my prayers. Or this is what I was thinking but you might have a better way.

    Or when it’s someones time to be called home… I can pray for them But if it’s their time to go home who am I to pray to take that away. Knowing God will know. As He is the all knowing. Our Heavenly Father.

    Is there power in prayer yes… But I think only if aligned with Gods will.

    So I try to go back to I’m praying but your will be done.
    Like He taught us to pray in the Lords prayer.

    Our Father in heaven,
    hallowed be your Name,
    your kingdom come,
    your will be done,
    on earth as in heaven.
    Give us today our daily bread.
    Forgive us our sins
    as we forgive those
    who sin against us.
    Save us from the time of trial,
    and deliver us from evil.
    For the kingdom, the power,
    and the glory are yours,
    now and for ever. Amen.

    This is going to be a great discussion in Bible study one night for sure.

    • Dave Pettigrew on November 30, 2020 at 11:04 am

      Amen. Agreed. The Lord’s Prayer is the foundation for it all. Maybe we dissect that a little more in future devotions….

  6. Jonathan B on November 30, 2020 at 6:16 pm

    2 Chronicles 7: 14 “if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and heal their land”
    Pray unceasing. Pray in good and bad times. God is listening.

  7. Sherri H on December 1, 2020 at 5:21 pm

    And that’s how we communicate with our God praying and talking , we should never get to the place that we aren’t communicating with God here on earth until we see Him face to face

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